Saturday, March 13, 2010

Orly at Midweek Politics, March 4 (?), 2010

[Notes: A couple of inaudibles were unavoidable, as Orly's connection was iffy at times. I may go back for a second listen later, but will leave them as is for now. I also dropped a couple of false starts but left in any that could remotely be considered meaningful.]

From YouTube:

MR. PAKMAN: Orly Taitz is the lawyer, dentist, and real estate agent at the head of the birther movement that questions whether President Obama is a U.S. citizen and wants to see his birth certificate.

Orly, thanks for joining me today.

MS. TAITZ: Thank you. By the way, let me correct you. It's not the issue whether he is a U.S. citizen. At issue is whether he's a natural born citizen, which is a requirement to be the president.

MR. PAKMAN: You're right.

MS. TAITZ: And it's much more than just the birth certificate, because regardless of where Obama was born, in Kenya or Hawaii or even if he was to be born in the White House, at issue is the fact that he was never legitimate as a president because he had multiple citizenships, because he had and still has allegiance to different nations from birth until today, and that's Great Britain, Kenya, and Indonesia. That was important to correct that.

MR. PAKMAN: Right, I stand corrected. Let's start from the beginning. I want to go – first, let's go through your background and how you came to be really a very visible spokesperson at this point for this movement. One question I've been getting from the audience that they really want to know is how long did it take? I mean, lawyer, dentist, and real estate – how long were you in school.

MS. TAITZ: Well, I've been a dentist for over 20 years, and I'm one of these people who likes to study. So as I ran my dental practice, and I have a family – I'm married and have three sons – I studied at night, and I was able to finish law school. I passed California Bar.

Now in terms of real estate, it's not something that I do for a living. I just – when my husband and I were selling our old house, my husband said, listen, you study all the time anyways; might as well just take this real estate broker's exam and we can save on the commission. That's what I did. I just sat for the real estate broker's license exam and passed it. And so I was the listing broker for our own house, and that's how it came about.

MR. PAKMAN: So as far as law school, this has also been a point of some contention, I believe you went to William Howard Taft University. Now, that is not accredited by the American Bar Association, right?

MS. TAITZ: Let me explain. I passed the California Bar. I'm licensed. I'm a licensed attorney in the state of California. I'm admitted to present clients in the Supreme Court of the United States of America. I did study at night. I did go to what's called night school. I did study on my own, and if anything, it just shows that I have more brains than average Joe, because it's not that easy to study independently at night, pass the exams, go to the California Bar, which is considered to be the most difficult bar in the nation, and pass it. I've seen people who went to Harvard and Yale and failed, and I passed.

MR. PAKMAN: Sure, but so we are correct in saying it is not accredited by the American Bar, just to be clear?

MS. TAITZ: Well, it is – you know what? I don't know what exact accreditation – they have accreditation for base schools, and then there are schools [inaudible] education, expand[?] studies, which I did, and that's the only difference, that I didn't go through regular school, you know, based during the day and take class.

MR. PAKMAN: Okay, fair enough.

MS. TAITZ: But I did pass the California Bar, and anybody can go and check. I passed. I'm licensed in the state of California. I've been licensed since 2002, and I'm also licensed with American Bar Association. You are welcome to go and check our license with them, as well. I'm a member of American Bar Association.


MS. TAITZ: So, you know, people were trying to discredit me.

MR. PAKMAN: No, I'm just trying to get the facts out, that's all. We get a lot of questions.

So let's move on to the topic at hand. So I heard you recently spoke at a tea bagger conference. Is that right?

MS. TAITZ: Well, that's really disrespectful. When it comes to the conference, if you are referring to the tea party, yes, I have given speeches at a number of tea party conventions, and by the way, tea party patriots are very active. These people are concerned about this country, and they actually were credited with major shift in politics as of late. You've seen how typically blue states like Virginia, New Jersey, and Massachusetts switched from Democratic Party to Republican Party, and I'm sure you've seen the reports that it's largely because of the support from the tea party movement, and I'm sure you've heard that I'm considering running for the position of Secretary of State of California, specifically because of the massive fraud that we've seen in elections.

MR. PAKMAN: I've heard rumors, yeah, but it was hard to believe.

MS. TAITZ: As a matter of fact, just before I started this interview, I was in the bank, because I needed to open a separate account for the campaign and so that I can deposit money in the account to pay the fee in order to put my name on the ballot. There are a lot of people that are urging me to run, because -

MR. PAKMAN: No, I understand. I was just setting – that my real question to you is politically you also don't agree with Barack Obama, right? So it's not so much – there is the birther question, but you also politically consider yourself more in line with the tea party.

MS. TAITZ: Well, you know, by the way, that's another misconception, because a lot of people believe that tea party movement is just one political party, and as you've seen, actually, people that participate in tea party movements, tea party conventions, belong to different political parties.

MR. PAKMAN: But I'm asking – no, I understand, Orly, but I'm asking you. Politically you would consider yourself conservative, liberal, or how?

MS. TAITZ: Well, I am conservative. I am more [inaudible] 99.9 percent of population of this nation are more conservative than Barack Obama. He wants to [inaudible] to communism.

MR. PAKMAN: No, it's not –

MS. TAITZ: And a lot of people – you know, when he came with the slogan hope and change, they know that there isn't much hope for any change, at least not for any change for the better, but now people are seeing that basically his political philosophy is the philosophy of big government, government takeover of most of the industries. We've seen takeover in banking, in automotive, and now he's trying the takeover of the health care, and you've seen the polls. A large – I mean, majority of population of this country do not believe that that's the way to go.

MR. PAKMAN: So if I understand correctly, if I understand correctly, and I really want to get into the meat of the birth certificate and everything. If I understand correctly, you disagree with the majority of Barack Obama's policies as president, but you also say he was born in Kenya and because of that he shouldn't be president anyway, right? So it's two-sided.

MS. TAITZ: Well, let me explain something. For example, I am more conservative than Hilary Clinton.

MR. PAKMAN: Right.

MS. Taitz: However, I would have never filed any lawsuits challenging Hilary Clinton, simply even though I disagree with her on a number of issues, simply because she is legitimate for U.S. presidency.

MR. PAKMAN: Right.

MS. TAITZ: And I never filed against anybody else, because as far as I know all the other candidates have been legitimate.

[Commercial break.]

MS. TAITZ: Barack Obama, again, it is irrelevant whether he was born in Kenya or not, and that's what people don't understand. There is no need to prove that he was born in Kenya or anywhere else. The most important issue is the fact at his birth he had foreign citizenship. You know, it was said at the inauguration that his father was an immigrant, but the point is his father was never an immigrant in this country. His father was here on a student visa and was never a U.S. citizen, not even a resident, and therefore, at the time Barack Obama was born, he had British citizenship under British Nationality Act of 1948 –

MR. PAKMAN: And does he have a British birth certificate.

MS. TAITZ: I don't know. It is irrelevant.

MR. PAKMAN: Ah, okay.

MS. TAITZ: The whole point is because his father was a British citizen, he was not qualified, and let me bring one more example, just to show that I am consistent. It is an important issue. For example, Bobby Jindal is considered to be one of the leading Republican candidates in the next presidential election.

MR. PAKMAN: Well, maybe.

MS. TAITZ: And I was very outspoken, time and again, stating that he cannot be a presidential candidate for the same reason that Obama cannot be the president, specifically because when Bobby Jindal was born, his father, just like Obama's father, was here on a student visa, not from Kenya, but from India. Regardless, and therefore, at birth Bobby Jindal had citizenship and allegiance to India. Whether he actually obtained any documents from India or not, it's irrelevant.

MR. PAKMAN: It is irrelevant, you're right.

MS. TAITZ: And I'm saying, you know, it's not a matter of politics. It is a constitutional issue.

MR. PAKMAN: Well, I'm glad that this is not a political thing, because that's when we get mixed up.

I have five questions, and I know it's tough, but if we can get yes-or-nos from you, it would be great.

MS. TAITZ: Okay.

MR. PAKMAN: Do you believe Barack Obama was raised in radical Islam.

MS. TAITZ: Well, I believe that – well, regardless of what I believe –

MR. PAKMAN: Well, I'm curious. But that's my question. What do you believe?

MS. TAITZ: Let me – I'm not going to talk about my beliefs. I'm just going to talk about the facts that we all know. When he – his biological father is a Muslim, and judging by some of his writings, he really continued on the path of radical Islam. Barack Obama himself went to school in Indonesia and his school certificate shows him as Muslim, and where it states religion, it states Islam. We know that in 1981 he traveled to Pakistan, which was under the rule of General Zia Ul-Haq. The country was under the strict radical Muslim rule. So those are the facts.

MR. PAKMAN: Again, there's just five of these. Let me just see if we can run through a couple more, and again, the closer we can get to just yes or no is going to be ideal.

MS. TAITZ: Okay. Yes, okay.

MR. PAKMAN: Do you believe Barack Obama's first act as president was to donate money to Hamas?

MS. TAITZ: It was one of the executive orders.


MS. TAITZ: Where he donated $900 million to Hamas while at the same time he cut $500 million from U.S. Army veterans.

MR. PAKMAN: Okay, $900 million to Hamas.

Do you think that Barack Obama has dozens of Social Security numbers?

MS. TAITZ: Again, it's not what I think. What I think is absolutely irrelevant.

MR. PAKMAN: It's not. Orly, hold on a second. I'm interested – I'm personally very – I happen to think he doesn't have dozens. I want to know what you think. It's relevant to me, and it's relevant to our audience.

MS. TAITZ: Okay, sure. Sure, and again, as an attorney I can only talk about the facts and evidence that I possess.

MR. PAKMAN: Well, try this as a dentist then maybe. I don't know.

MS. TAITZ: Okay, so the facts, the evidence that I possess, that I have obtained, those were affidavits from licensed investigators, and according to affidavit by the licensed investigator Neil Sankey, as well as affidavits from other investigators, for example Susan Daniels, Barack Obama, according to national databases, such as Tracepoint[?], LexisNexis, Locator, used multiple Social Security numbers.

MR. PAKMAN: Got it.

MS. TAITZ: None of which were issued in the state of Hawaii.


MS. TAITZ: Moreover, the number that he is using currently – and you can actually verify this – xxx-xx-xxxx, is the number that was issued in Connecticut -- that's the number that he used most of his life – originally was issued to an individual born in 1890, and we know, of course, Obama was not born in 1890.

MR. PAKMAN: No, certainly not.

MS. TAITZ: He never resided in Connecticut.

MR. PAKMAN: Got it. Okay, so you're – Orly, I'm trying to get through – there's just so much to cover. Your answer to that one is yes, I think, if I hear correctly.

MS. TAITZ: Well, this is the evidence that I have.

MR. PAKMAN: I follow.

MS. TAITZ: And [inaudible] use and make a decision whether there should be an action in regards to that.

MR. PAKMAN: Do you believe that Barack Obama has made threats on your life?

MS. TAITZ: No, he did not. He personally did not make any threats on my life.

MR. PAKMAN: Or his associates.

MS. TAITZ: All I know, that a number of individuals made threats on my life. I have those recorded. I have recorded both in audio recordings, emails, comments on my website. So it's all well-documented. I have affidavits. I have all the information. There was tampering with my car. I'm not stating that it was done by Barack Obama himself. As a matter of fact, I'm sure it was not done by him personally.

MR. PAKMAN: No, I'm sure it wasn't him personally.

MS. TAITZ: There were a number of individuals that did it, and I want the law enforcement all over the nation, I demanded investigation. I have a husband, I have three children, and as of yet no investigation was done, and that's why I want the United Nations to their Civil Rights –

MR. PAKMAN: I've got it. So the answer is not Barack Obama personally, but you believe it may have been his associates acting for him. I follow.

MS. TAITZ: I am saying some individuals have made multiple death threats, there was tampering with my car, there was tampering with my PayPal account, there was vandalism of my website, vandalism of my car -

MR. PAKMAN: Got it.

MS. TAITZ: - and this just needs to be investigated. You know –

MR. PAKMAN: Orly, we're just out of time. I was hoping to get yes-or-nos, but we got two- or three-minute answers.

The last thing, you know, I think it's interesting what you're doing. I think you're wrong, but I would suggest to you a little bit of the time looking for Barack Obama's birth certificate, let's uncover Sarah Palin's high school diploma or Glenn Beck's rehab discharge form. I think that would be a good use of time, I'll be honest.

MS. TAITZ: Well, you know what, let's do one thing at a time, but the thing is, regardless – and you know what, I'm not in – trust me, I have gotten requests of investigation of a lot of things, and again, it is not political. You know, I'm not a fan of Glenn Beck. If you've seen, I've written a number of articles where I disagreed with Glenn Beck vehemently on a number of issues. As a matter of fact, it was written, well, here Orly Taitz is attacking Barack Obama and John McCain and Glenn Beck.

MR. PAKMAN: Well, Orly, I'll tell you, you have said it all. Unfortunately we've gone way over. I thank you for calling in today, and we are just completely out of time.

Orly Taitz, it's incredible, I really hope that we're able to find that birth certificate, Lewis[?], because I as much anyone else wants to know w
here it is.

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