tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30531065690344511192024-03-08T08:29:37.392-08:00For the Hearing ImpairedThe birthers in their own words.
Unauthorized, uncertified, unnotarized, unrequested.Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03090683242630194066noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3053106569034451119.post-46049224030526878122012-02-24T13:55:00.002-08:002012-02-24T15:49:40.012-08:00Orly Does IndianaMR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">DUMEZICH</span>: The next proceeding will be consideration and cause numbers 2012-161, 162, 163, and 176, which have been filed in the matter of the challenge to Barack Obama, candidate for the Democratic Party nomination for President of the United States. Since more than one individual has filed a challenge against this candidate, we'll begin at the front of the room, you'll recognize yourself as the first challenger who wish to present, identify yourself to the court reporter. Again, after that first challenger, just add anything you have in addition.<br />
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[Housekeeping discussion.]<br />
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Mr. King, can you report on the documents in the record?<br />
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MR. KING: Mr. Chairman, members of the commission, the challenges, notices, and documents submitted by parties have been included in the commission's binder and pursuant to the procedural rules are admitted into evidence.<br />
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MS. RIORDAN: Could you repeat that last sentence, Mr. King?<br />
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MR. KING: I think the last sentence I stated was, and pursuant to the procedural rules adopted, the documents are admitted into evidence.<br />
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MS. RIORDAN: I don't want to admit them until somebody goes through them, if we could consider that as a commission. Okay, so I would ask that the commission would wait before admitting all of these exhibits that have been submitted so we have some sense of their provenance.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1">DUMEZICH</span>: Let's just say that they've been lodged with the commission, how's that?<br />
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MS. RIORDAN: [Inaudible]<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2">DUMEZICH</span>: Okay, with that in mind.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3">KESLER</span>: My name is Edward <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4">Kesler</span>, K-E-S-L-E-R. The four of us who have lodged the CAN-1 form are -- will be represented by Dr. Orly <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5">Taitz</span>, T-A-I-T-Z, and our issues are concerning, identity issues, passport issues, Social Security Number issues, and education issues, and with that, I'd turn it over to Dr. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6">Taitz</span>.<br />
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MR. ?: I've got a question before we take any witnesses. Can you cite as to some law in Indiana or the United States that makes the candidacy on our ballot -- that's the only issue here is is whether the President of the United States is an eligible candidate to be on our ballot, under our laws, that anything, any reference to a Social Security Number and any require -- I'm asking you the question.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7">KESLER</span>: The Constitution of the United States requires certain things.<br />
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MR. ?: Does it require a Social Security Number?<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8">KESLER</span>: No, but --<br />
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MR. ?: Okay, that's my question. Is there any law that you can cite us to that requires a Social Security Number, valid or otherwise, as a prerequisite to being candidate for the United States of America, for the President.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9">KESLER</span>: No, sir, there is not, but with that kind of reasoning, any illegal alien from Mexico wouldn't have to have one either.<br />
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MR. ?: Surely you're not contending the President is an illegal alien from Mexico.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10">KESLER</span>: No, sir. I did not say that.<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11">TAITZ</span>: But from Indonesia.<br />
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MR. ?: Okay, all right.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12">KESLER</span>: Perhaps from Indonesia.<br />
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MR. ?: And are you aware that the Indiana courts have ruled that President Obama is a citizen of the United States?<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13">TAITZ</span>: No.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14">KESLER</span>: I have not been made aware of that, and the fact of being a citizen of the United States does still not qualify one to run for the highest office of the land.<br />
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MR. ?: All I'm going to say to you today is we've come here -- and my position is very simple. The evidence you're offering is under oath.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15">KESLER</span>: Yes, sir.<br />
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MR. ?: And you'd best well have proof, because to offer testimony under oath can be a crime in this state, and your testimony may well be certified to the prosecutor of this county for review. We have been for four years hearing people nationwide talking about the <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_16">birther</span> movement, and Ms. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_17">Taitz</span> is all over the news on this issue, and I'm just telling you, I don't think that's an issue in this thing here today.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_18">KESLER</span>: Sir, with having listened to you, I'm not concerned about the birth certificate, whether it's valid or not. I really am not. But what I am concerned about is that none of us were really given a proper chance to vet this gentleman the last time around. I want to make sure he's vetted this time.With that, I'll turn it over to Ms. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_19">Taitz</span>.<br />
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MS. RIORDAN: Ms. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_20">Taitz</span>, Dr. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_21">Taitz</span>, are you a member of the Bar of the State of Indiana?<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_22">TAITZ</span>: I'm not here as an attorney. I'm here as a witness to authenticate all of the evidence and all of the documents that you want authenticated. I'm the researcher who's done all the research.<br />
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MR. ?: Then Mr. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_23">Kesler</span> said that you're here representing him.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_24">KESLER</span>: Well, she is our spokesperson.<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_25">TAITZ</span>: He is -- he misspoke. I'm here only as a witness, not as an attorney.<br />
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MR. ?: Then, as far as I'm concerned, procedurally you will be asked questions and you will be answering them as a witness. We're not here to hear a five-minute dissertation as to whatever you wish, on things you wish to -- that's at least my position. I'm certainly not the chair, but I don't --<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_26">DUMEZICH</span>: Okay, [inaudible] your witness, if you're a witness, start by asking her questions.<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_27">TAITZ</span>: Okay, I'm not a challenger, there are four challengers [inaudible].<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_28">DUMEZICH</span>: Okay, but let's stop for a second. Sir, are you done? Have you -- because what I want to do is I want to make sure we exhaust every challenger so they have an opportunity to ask their question, and then we can get done with it. Have you --<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_29">KESLER</span>: I have explained what I had brought forward as challenges to his --<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_30">DUMEZICH</span>: Okay, so then at this point, your challenge is done, and you've turned it over. So please whatever you do, don't duplicate anything the first challenger has said, and only bring forth new evidence, and remember, you're limited to five minutes.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_31">SWIHART</span>: My name is Carl <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_32">Swihart</span>, S-W-I-H-A-R-T. Orly, what evidence do you have to bring forth today?<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_33">TAITZ</span>: Okay, with that I will provide and authenticate the evidence, and according to Indiana code 3-8-1-6 and 3-8-2-14, the candidate for the U.S. president has to be a natural born citizen according to Article 2 Section 1 Paragraph 4 of the U.S. Constitution, which --<br />
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MR. ?: Tell me what evidence you have he was not born in the United States.<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_34">TAITZ</span>: Yes, sir. First of all, what does natural born citizen mean? According to --<br />
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MR. ?: Ma'am, we're all attorneys. I think we know what natural born citizen means.<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_35">TAITZ</span>: Okay. Okay. First of all, the evidence shows that Obama is not his legal name, and I brought forward a declaration that was obtained on the Freedom of Information Act showing -- and you have it in your packet -- that in Mr. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_36">Obama's</span> mother's passport records he is listed under last name <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_37">Soebarkah</span>. They lived in Indonesia, and in his school records he is listed under last name <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_38">Soetoro</span>. You have no legal right to put on the ballot an individual under last name that is not even his. Who are you putting on the ballot? Mr. Obama or Mr. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_39">Soetoro</span> or <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_40">Soebarkah</span>?<br />
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MR. ?: Do you have -- show me evidence -- we're going to -- I will treat you with the respect that you deserve, and I expect to be treated the same. Show me the evidence that you have that this person you're identifying in Indonesia is Barack Obama, and I want you offering that certified, properly certified authenticated records from Indonesia that you're identifying as [inaudible].<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_41">TAITZ</span>: Sir, yes, first of all, this is from the United States of America Department of Justice. You received two Federal Express packages with the records of -- under Freedom of Information Act that were received passport records of Miss Stanley Ann <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_42">Dunham</span>, deceased mother of Mr. Obama, showing -- and you have it in your packet -- that in her passport records he is listed under last name <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_43">Soebarkah</span>. So this is not the last name of Mr. Obama. He was supposed to be here and rebut this evidence, and first of all, with prior candidates, you have issued a default ruling when the candidate did not show up to rebut any evidence, and before we even go into this, I would like to know why a default is not being issued against Mr. Obama. Is there preferential treatment against somebody who is --<br />
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MR. ?: You are a witness. You are a witness.<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_44">TAITZ</span>: Okay, Mr. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_45">Swihart</span> will ask.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_46">SWIHART</span>: Okay, I'll ask why there isn't a default.<br />
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MR. ?: I'm going to object to that question, because it's totally irrelevant for you to ask -- you don't ask questions to us.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_47">SWIHART</span>: Okay, why isn't there a default against Mr. Obama?<br />
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MR. ?: We're not here to -- we're not witnesses and --<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_48">SWIHART</span>: Okay, I demand a default judgment. <br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_49">TAITZ</span>: Default ruling.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_50">SWIHART</span>: Ruling, I mean, excuse me.<br />
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MR. ?: I move to deny your motion for the default. There you go. I'll make that motion.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_51">DUMEZICH</span>: Do I hear a second?<br />
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MS. RIORDAN: Second.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_52">DUMEZICH</span>: Okay, all in favor of the motion to deny a default judgment, indicate by saying aye.<br />
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[Ayes.]<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_53">DUMEZICH</span>: [Inaudible.] 4-0, ayes have it. So let's do the opposite side of this, so that way we can --<br />
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[Brief discussion.]<br />
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MS. RIORDAN: So now we're going to turn to whether you meet your burden, and so far I don't think anything -- any of these documents have been properly authenticated. I don't know where they came from. I don't know why they should even be admitted by the commission.<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_54">TAITZ</span>: Ma'am, I have presented --<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_55">DUMEZICH</span>: Excuse me, excuse me. Just so you understand what happened was he asked for a motion, right? At that point, the motion was denied, okay? Now --<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_56">TAITZ</span>: I wonder why.**<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_57">DUMEZICH</span>: Yes, it's denied. Now, here's the other part of this. Now, because he did that, because he started it off, they have now made a motion going in the opposite -- or they're going to make a motion going in the opposite direction, which is going to be whether or not to leave him on the ballot, okay?<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_58">TAITZ</span>: Yeah.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_59">DUMEZICH</span>: And then it will be closed, okay?<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_60">TAITZ</span>: Okay, the evidence that I have provided in this 300-page packet presents testimony. I as an attorney conducted a court hearing in the state of Georgia, and I provided you with court records from the state of Georgia where seven witnesses testified under oath, under penalty of perjury, and there is nothing to rebut it by Mr. Obama.<br />
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MR. ?: But they're not here to testify in front of us. We can only hear testimony given by others.<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_61">TAITZ</span>: Yeah, so you have some 300 pages in the packets that were sent to you of sworn testimony from the administrative court in the state of Georgia. You also have evidence, exhibits that were admitted into evidence in the state of Georgia. So I'm here to authenticate, yes, what you have is indeed the -- a court transcript and evidence from the court hearing in the state of Georgia where I was an attorney.<br />
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MR. ?: You're offering this into evidence.<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_62">TAITZ</span>: Yes, I do.<br />
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MR. ?: I would move that we deny this evidence, because it is not properly certified, and you hold yourself out as an attorney. You would know that you're not the person to certify court records. So these are not certified records. You've got a packet of several hundred pages of whatever it is, and it's not certified. So you're offering into evidence as records of another court, or of a court in the state of Georgia, among other things, and I do not believe it meets any standard for admissibility as evidence under either the administrative adjudication act or any of the rules of procedure which we are familiar with. So my motion is to deny these documents as exhibits.<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_63">TAITZ</span>: Okay, I will continue --<br />
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MS. RIORDAN: I'll second that so that we can discuss that just very briefly, Mr. Chairman. I've taken a look through these 300 pages, and they're actually not --<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_64">DUMEZICH</span>: Let me just make sure I get this right. There's a motion on the floor. I've heard a second. I can now move for discussion. Discussion to Member Riordan.<br />
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MS. RIORDAN: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I've reviewed these materials, and actually they're not 300 pages of sworn testimony. There are several unnumbered pages of proposed findings of fact and conclusions of law, which is a so-called legal document that you drafted, no grounds for admission, 100 percent hearsay. And then we have several pages of typed transcript, which I've read some of, and it's actually pretty ridiculous, but again, 100 percent hearsay, inadmissible, and there are a number of other many illegible documents, totally unclear where they came from, whether they were printed off the <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_65">internet</span> or just some random other source. Nothing that is appropriately before the commission. There's been no personal authentication or certification or any reason put forth why this body should be taking the <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_66">public's</span> time to even review these documents for a minute. And so with that, I would ask that unless there's any more discussion, I'd like to call the question on the motion to deny the admission of this evidence so that we can move forward to looking at this on the merits.<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_67">TAITZ</span>: I have more evidence aside from what was provided.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_68">DUMEZICH</span>: We're in the discussion phase of the commission at this point in time. The way that I look at this, you've submitted these documents. These are lodged with the commission. Regardless of what happens today, you have a remedy, which is a judicial remedy, which would be more appropriate. Frankly, I would get an attorney in Indiana, okay, that's licensed here, to put together a case, because what I can see in front of me, and I've reviewed these documents -- and believe me, I'm not a fan of Barack Obama, but he is the President of the United States, and he should not be subjected to this sort of evidence that is unsubstantiated. That's a problem. That's a problem. It's all hearsay.<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_69">TAITZ</span>: Sir, it's not hearsay. I have evidence. You're not willing to listen, because you have decided, and this lady has her decision and her mind made before this even started, just by saying this was ridiculous. What is ridiculous? I personally -- I provided my affidavit. I'm here to authenticate my affidavit. Can you explain to me as an attorney what is ridiculous in me authenticating my own affidavit? Can you explain what is ridiculous in that?<br />
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[Brief discussion.]<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_70">DUMEZICH</span>: Could we have a motion on the floor?<br />
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AUDIENCE MEMBER: [Inaudible.]<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_71">DUMEZICH</span>: Whoa, whoa. You're out of order.<br />
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AUDIENCE MEMBER: Okay, well, you're out of order.<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_72">TAITZ</span>: You're all out of order.<br />
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MR. ?: I would ask that this gentleman be removed from the chamber.<br />
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MR. ?: Yep.<br />
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MR. ?: You're disruptive of a meeting. Could we have security come in, please?<br />
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AUDIENCE MEMBER: [Inaudible]<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_73">DUMEZICH</span>: Absolutely, and if you're a challenger, you take your time and you come up and you do it.<br />
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AUDIENCE MEMBER: [Inaudible]<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_74">DUMEZICH</span>: I didn't attack anybody.<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_75">TAITZ</span>: Yes, you did. You wouldn't let us speak.<br />
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AUDIENCE MEMBER: [Inaudible]. People have a right to speak.<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_76">TAITZ</span>: And you don't let us speak. You made your mind before I even started. Why don't you let me speak and provide authentication for my own affidavit? Let the people of the state of Indiana and the media see the evidence.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_77">KESLER</span>: Mr. Chairman, may I speak before you finish up? I would say that you were very cordial when I first sat down. You, sir, were not. Ma'am, you were not. Whatever you do with the challenge is entirely up to you, and we accept that. However, the fact that you instantly jumped on my case over something like the Social Security Number -- do you realize that the man uses the wrong Social Security Number? Wait a minute, wait a minute.<br />
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MR. ?: So what?<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_78">KESLER</span>: It's fraud. That's the what.<br />
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MR. ?: Then take it to the House of Representative and seek to have him impeached.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_79">KESLER</span>: And you know what they would say? Well, we can't impeach him because, gosh, he's probably not the president. What would you do then?<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_80">TAITZ</span>: Sir, sir, we need to provide evidence.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_81">DUMEZICH</span>: This has turned into a -- you know what, let's go to a recess. Five minute recess. <br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_82">DUMEZICH</span>: Quiet, please. We're going to reconvene in a moment. What we're going to do is you'll have your time to make your presentation. Anything that you want lodged, put into evidence, we're going to take and lodge with the commission, which means it's not accepted into evidence, but there's a record of it so you can do whatever you want to do with it procedurally after that. Okay, what I would like to do --<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_83">TAITZ</span>: [Inaudible]<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_84">DUMEZICH</span>: Excuse me, I'm speaking. I'm going to say this once. One person talks at a time. This is not the Spanish Inquisition here where people are arguing back and forth. I let a dialogue start that I shouldn't have. Okay, I'm not going to make that mistake again. You'll have your opportunity to present. Members of this commission will question you when that's up, when that time is up, and then we'll go to a ruling. But your documents will be lodged with the commission.<br />
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Okay, yes. I want a clock, a five-minute clock.<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_85">TAITZ</span>: I'm sorry, because four individuals agreed to give me their time, and you stated that you allow five minutes per person.<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_86">DUMEZICH</span>: <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_87">Five</span> minutes and then anything that's not <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_88">duplicative</span>, okay? So in total, the most you can go is ten minutes under any circumstances.<br />
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MS. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_89">TAITZ</span>: Okay, thank you.<br />
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The challenge for Mr. Obama is due to following evidence. In 2008, when Mr. Obama got into the White House, we did not have sufficient evidence. Today we have sufficient evidence, certified records with signature under penalty of perjury from Department of State showing that in his mother's passport records, Mr. Obama is listed under last name <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_90">Soebarkah</span>. Even if you would disregard anything, it shows that he is trying to get on the ballot under name that is not his. We don't know who this man is. He is not here to provide any evidence of legal change of name, <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_91">Soebarkah</span> -- from <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_92">Soebarkah</span>/<span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_93">Soetoro</span>.<br />
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Next, in Indonesia, in his registration for school in Indonesia, Mr. Obama was listed under last name <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_94">Soetoro</span>, citizenship Indonesian. There is no evidence -- Mr. Obama is not providing any evidence to show that his citizenship is not Indonesian. Furthermore, Mr. Obama personally posted online his tax returns. Even though the Constitution does not state that you have to have a valid Social Security Number, the question is Indiana Constitution states you have to be natural born citizen. How do you prove that you're natural born? You can prove it by having valid identification papers, and the basis for this challenge, that Mr. Obama does not have any valid <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_95">identification</span> numbers, that the records show that he is using a stolen Social Security Number that was issued in 1977 in the state of Connecticut to an individual born in 1890. This man is a criminal, ma'am and gentlemen, and you are covering up forgery and Social Security --<br />
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MR. <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_96">DUMEZICH</span>: Whoa, whoa. Let's stop. Stop right there. Present your case. We're not covering anything up. We're allowing you to speak your mind and putting it before the commission. If you're disrespectful like that one more time, your butt's going to be gone. You got that?<br />
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MS. TAITZ: Okay.<br />
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Mr. Obama has posted, personally posted online, his tax returns. In 2008 he posted online his tax returns. I'm testifying that I personally saw his tax returns and saw them through Adobe Illustrator, and thousands of U.S. citizens could see those tax returns through Adobe Illustrator. When you -- </div>
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MR. DUMEZICH: Do you understand what you're holding in your hand? That is not an income tax return. That is a form 709. Do you know what that is?<br />
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MS. TAITZ: This is a page from income tax return of Mr. Obama that he personally posted online. I did not bring the whole tax return. I brought just one page to show that on his tax return, when you open it in Adobe Illustrator, he has -- his full Social Security Number is visible. And I also provided in the packet information showing that the Social Security --<br />
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MR. DUMEZICH: Please give me that.<br />
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[Ms. Taitz presents document to commission.]<br />
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Okay, this goes to quality of evidence. This is not a form from an income tax return. This is a United States gift tax return. It has -- quiet, I'm talking.<br />
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MS. TAITZ: I didn't say a word.<br />
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MR. DUMEZICH: You just did.<br />
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MS. TAITZ: What?<br />
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MR. DUMEZICH: So, this form is not what she purports it to be. She's just wrong, okay?<br />
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MS. TAITZ: May I respond?<br />
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MR. DUMEZICH: No, because you're wrong. You can respond to it. This was not filed with a federal income tax return. I mean, you can slap the desk all you want, but the fact of the matter is when someone represents that this is an income tax return that the President filed, it's wrong in its face. This goes to the credibility of everything somebody says. When she's going to tell us that this is an income tax return, it's just not accurate. If this isn't accurate, it calls into question the rest of the evidence.<br />
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MS. TAITZ: Sir, this is one of the pages that was filed. Let me correct myself. One of the pages that was filed by Mr. Obama on April 15, 2010. It was a packet of Mr. Obama's tax returns. With it there was this page, gift return.<br />
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MR. DUMEZICH: You are now describing it differently than you did in the past.<br />
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MR. ?: Is your point that there is a Social Security Number on this document?<br />
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MS. TAITZ: Yes.<br />
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MR. ?: All right, pick it up from there.<br />
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MS. TAITZ: Yes. Yes, this was posted by Mr. Obama himself on whitehouse.gov. I personally saw it. This is his Social Security Number. In the United States of America, until last year, when Mr. Obama changed it, the Social Security Numbers were assigned by state. The first three digits signified the state. 042 is the state of Connecticut. Mr. Obama was never a resident of the state of Connecticut. That shows fraud on its face.<br />
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Moreover, I have my own affidavit that I provided you in your packet. I am here to authenticate my own affidavit that states that I personally went on Selective Service online, those are Selective Service records showing when you go on online verification, you enter a person's last name, Social Security Number, and date of birth. I entered the Social Security Number that Mr. Obama posted himself. xxx-xx-4425. I entered -- I personally entered -- his last name, Barack Obama, and date of birth, to see that he is indeed using this number, and I got the result, and it is in your packet, showing that indeed he is using this Social Security Number, which is a Connecticut Social Security Number. If it would have been somebody who is a latino, who came from Mexico, and the commission or anybody else would have seen this evidence, you would have stated this is a circumstantial evidence of identify fraud, of identity theft.<br />
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The only reason not to come to this conclusion is being biased in favor of Mr. Obama, and here I would like to present this for you.<br />
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[Ms. Taitz presents document to commission.]<br />
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Next, I have self-check E-Verify where Mr. Obama's name was entered, and it says SSA record does not verify.<br />
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Next, I have Social Security Number verification systems where Mr. Obama's -- the number that he is using, xxx-xx-4425, his name, Barack Obama, and his date of birth, 8-4-61, was entered, and it says, failed. That's yet another governmental agency. Social Security Number verification systems shows that he failed yet another check.<br />
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MR. DUMEZICH: Where are we on time?<br />
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MR. ?: It's expired.<br />
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MR. DUMEZICH: Wrap up in 30 seconds, please.<br />
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MS. TAITZ: Yes. This is Mr. Obama's -- Mr. Obama never showed up to show a valid birth certificate. He doesn't have it. He posted online a piece of garbage, and he's posting it on mugs and teeshirts, claiming that to be a copy of his birth certificate. Where's the certified copy to show? I am just a citizen. I have no access. I on my own dime traveled to the state of Hawaii in order to check the original. The state of Hawaii is stonewalling and refusing to show the original to verify that what Mr. Obama posted online is indeed a true and correct copy of his birth certificate. What was posted went online. When it did --<br />
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MR. DUMEZICH: Your 30 seconds are up. Just put the stuff -- lodge it with us, and we'll go from there. Close the record in the matter of cause number 2012-161, 2012-162, 2012-163, and cause number 2012-176.The record's been closed. Your documents have not been admitted into evidence but have been lodged with the commission.I will entertain a motion.<br />
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MR. ?: I would move we deny the challenges.<br />
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MR. DUMEZICH: Do I hear a second?<br />
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MS. RIORDAN: Second.<br />
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MR. DUMEZICH: Any discussion?<br />
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Hearing none, all in favor of the motion to deny the challenges, please indicate by saying aye.<br />
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All opposed, nay.<br />
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4-0, ayes have it.<br />
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<i>Microphones were left on during brief recess. Some snippets:</i><br />
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<i> SPEAKER: Go to the Social Security Number. You need to jump on that. You gotta show the SSN. You went to their website and showed the truth [phonetic].</i><br />
<i>MS. TAITZ: Yeah.</i><br />
<i> SPEAKER: So hell's going to be a hot place for people.</i><br />
<i> SPEAKER: You're in the right place.</i><br />
<i> SPEAKER: You're biased already before you even start.</i><br />
<i> SPEAKER: This is making my day. This is so cool.</i><br />
<i> SPEAKER: So where's the document that shows Social Security? I would jump right into that, because don't we have to just document it?</i><br />
<i>MS. TAITZ: [Inaudible] it doesn't say that you need to all have socials, but this is circumstantial evidence of fraud.</i><br />
<i> SPEAKER: Right. Well, why don't we just get someone to certify it, and it's a done deal. I mean, all we have to do is say -- get an expert and say that's all certified. It's done. That's all we have to do. I mean, get an expert. This has been a joke.</i><br />
<i>MS. TAITZ: [Inaudible]</i><br />
<i> SPEAKER: I don't know how they sleep at night. It's incredible. You go to youtube and the stuff on there is, like, Kenya ambassador is saying he's from Kenya.</i></div>
</div>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03090683242630194066noreply@blogger.com32tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3053106569034451119.post-12817730225286503132011-05-04T12:42:00.000-07:002011-05-04T12:42:27.977-07:00Kreep and Wagener discuss national security, May 2, 2011Q: Do you think it's significant that this time, unlike in 2009 when I was the only one there with the camera getting the conference, this time was different, because now C-SPAN put in a media request?<br />
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KREEP: Well, we had C-SPAN covering it live. We had ABC here. I didn't see CBS, but they had requested also. You know, I think Mr. Obama, in filing or submitting for publication this document, whatever it is, on Wednesday, last Wednesday, actually brought more attention to the issue than any one of us that are on the other side of this issue could have. He made it the news.<br />
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Q: I agree. Do you think this sudden declaration last night, almost at the midnight hour on the east coast, that they had killed Osama Bin Laden, but he's not presenting any body, he's not presenting any proof, do you think there was a staged act to take attention away from you and Orly Taitz here in this hearing?<br />
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KREEP: I'm not going to say something like that. I have no evidence to that. I have no – nothing on which to base it, so I'm not going to say anything.<br />
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Q: Good timing, though.<br />
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KREEP: Well, my understanding is that he did it right during the middle of Donald Trump's TV show. So maybe that has more to do with it than us.Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03090683242630194066noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3053106569034451119.post-42922688619591003502011-05-04T12:38:00.000-07:002011-05-04T12:38:49.550-07:00Berg's views, outside the courtroom, May 2, 2011<i>Is the birth certificate Obama released real?</i><br />
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BERG: The document that was released raised a lot of questions, just on the face of it, and then people have talked about there was layers on it and everything else, and I think it's a phony, because my position is – I have on our website, which is obamacrimes.com, the statement in Swahili by his step-grandmother, Sarah Obama, who states that she was in the hospital in Mombasa, Kenya, August 4, 1961, when Obama was born. That's pretty tough to overcome, and the recording was made by two ministers, one in Pennsylvania, one sitting next to her at her home over in Kenya.<br />
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<i>What do you say to the people who believe that's fake?</i><br />
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BERG: I've understood that some people have butchered it and taken it and changed it around. The original one on our service was correct and was taken with complete honesty by these two ministers.<br />
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Why are you pursuing this issue?</i><br />
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BERG: I'm doing this for the American public. I'm doing this for the 308 million people in the country who deserve to know the truth. I'm doing this for our forefathers, and I'm doing this for the men and women who have served our country. 1.6 million have died defending our constitution, and another 1.6 million have been injured, and the millions of others who continue to serve our country, and I hope that – we deserve the truth.<br />
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<i>In the past judges avoided this issue, do you think the judges will hear the case?</i><br />
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BERG: I'm still hoping. I hope it will happen, and I'm going to continue my efforts. I will not stop my efforts until Obama releases all of his records. He sealed all his records the first day or second day in office as President, and also until all his adoption records and immigration records coming back at age 10 to Hawaii are released, because I think it will show that he's never legally changed his name, that his name's Barry Soetoro, that he's not natural born, he's not naturalized, his status right now is an illegal alien, and therefore he should not be President, and his term as U.S. Senator from Illinois was fraud.Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03090683242630194066noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3053106569034451119.post-42148403805592435072011-05-03T13:56:00.000-07:002011-05-04T07:38:30.140-07:00Orly's Word Salad, May 2, 2011UNOFFICIAL, QUICK AND DIRTY<br />
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ORLY: Good morning, again. I'm Orly Taitz. I'm representing Ambassador Alan Keyes, who actually has unique standing, because he ran against Mr. Obama twice. He ran against him for Senate in 2004. There were two finalists in the senatorial run, and if indeed Mr. Obama, as the evidence shows, committed fraud, and he – the evidence that we have shows that he does not have a valid social security number. He's using a number that was never assigned. Does not have a valid original birth certificate. What he recently provided to the public and, I believe, greatly influenced the country as a whole and possibly – I mean, possibly even somehow influenced the courts with all the future proceedings by publishing this computer image claiming that to be a true and correct copy of his original birth certificate issued in 1961, and analysis shows that it's – it's not. It's not a true and correct image of original birth certificate. It's a very inventive computer art, where bits and pieces were taken from different documents, put together, and this image was created.<br />
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Not only Mr. Obama has done that, he created this psychological Kristallnacht against people who are now bringing these kind of legal actions to court. He called us carnival barkers, and that started mass hysteria in the media, saying we need to go away, get out of the country, and so forth.<br />
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And of course Ambassador Keyes has perfect standing, because if indeed fraud was committed, and Mr. Obama does not have proper papers, he could never become not only the president, he could never become the Senator from the state of Illinois, and Ambassador Keyes and President Obama were the finalists in that competition in 2004.<br />
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Additionally, my clients are members of U.S. military, and I'm sure Your Honors know that just recently, a fellow member of U.S. military, Lieutenant Colonel Lakin, was imprisoned when he was supposed to redeploy to Afghanistan and he was asked for his birth certificate, he stated why should I show and not Mr. Obama. He said I will be willing to go if I know that I have a legitimate commander in chief, and he was denied his right to fair trial. The presiding judge – and I was at that trial – stated that he cannot bring the issue of eligibility, and he is today rotting in prison. This high ranking officer is sitting in prison in Fort Leavenworth. He lost his pension.<br />
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So my clients, and there are 30 of them, some of them are here, who are members of U.S. military, are greatly concerned in that all the evidence show Mr. Obama not being eligible, him having – him not having a valid selective service document, not having valid social security number, not having valid birth certificate, not having valid educational records, sitting in the White House, and if they are questioning him, they will be sitting in prison in Fort Leavenworth, just as Lieutenant Lakin is sitting there.<br />
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Lastly, my clients are 10 state representatives from different states. As you know, Your Honors, there are a number of issues that are currently being heard in different states, among them the health care reform. The states have balanced budget amendments. And they need to know whether indeed when they are trying to implement different measures or executive orders coming from the White House, they want to know that those orders are legitimate when they are implementing those orders in their states.<br />
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Additionally, this case is different from all the other cases, and the beauty of it, the standing, as a matter of fact, doesn't even come up. Why so? Because I filed this case on Inauguration Day, on Inauguration Day, and before Mr. Obama did anything as U.S. President, and Mr. Obama never filed an answer, and we had a default hearing on July 13, 2009. Now, if Mr. Obama were to file an answer and he would have stated, well, there is a problem with standing of those plaintiffs, we weould have been arguing standing. However, he didn't, in spite of the fact that he was served four times. During the hearing that I – a motion hearing that I asked for on the issue of default, Mr. Obama could not send his own attorney or U.S. attorney on his behalf, because then it would have shown that indeed he was served. So what he did, he sent this gentleman, assistant U.S. attorney, and it was a trick. They said, well, he is here, but he is not representing the President. He is representing the United States of America. And pressured the judge and me to serve Mr. Obama for the fifth time, yet again, through him, and I refused. I flatly refused to do it.<br />
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And Judge Carter stated on the record, well, uh, if you refuse, this case will be dismissed. I'm inclined to dismiss it. It's going to be sitting in the 9th Circuit for a year, and you owe it to the country to have this case heard on the merits. I refused again. I said, Your Honor, we're losing our due process and constitutional rights. You can either give me the default judgment or deny it. You cannot pressure me and under duress make me serve Mr. Obama for the fifth time through the U.S. Attorney's Office. That's undue influence.<br />
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And the hearing lasted, I think, over two hours, and repeatedly Judge Carter kept pressuring me, and he [inaudible] violation of due process and first amendment right for redress of grievances, because I was pressured under duress to serve Mr. Obama yet again, and I – and this particular instance was an instance of the court exceeding their – the court's judicial discretion, abusing the judicial discretion.<br />
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Additionally, this U.S. Attorney had no standing to be there to begin with. He was not representing the plaintiffs. He was not – he claimed he was not representing the defendant. So he had no standing to argue anything and be part of the case to begin with. And there was an abuse of judicial discretion on part of Judge Carter to go ahead and demand that I serve U.S. attorneys who were not part of the case. They were not representing anybody on this case.<br />
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Additionally, as that was done, Judge Carter made sort of a quid pro quo, a deal. He stated if you serve the government the way they want – he didn't even say that I didn't serve Mr. Obama correctly. I served correctly under Rule 4.e., and the U.S. Attorney provided an incorrect reconstruction of the statute. He stated that I did not serve him correctly, that I have to serve him under Rule 4.i., as 4.i. – and I correctly stated, 4.i. is reserved only to governmental officials that are being served in regards to something that they're performing within their duties. I'm serving him regards to fraud that he committed before he became the president. It was not done as part of his duties. It was done for his own benefit.<br />
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So, and I'm seeking also an order stating that there was improper reconstruction of the statute. There was an error by Judge Carter, and due to this error, the case needs to be overturned. The decision needs to be overturned.<br />
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And there was a clear pattern of undue influence on this federal judge by the U.S. Attorneys Office, or actually by the White House, using this U.S. Attorneys Office, and additionally using his own private attorney, one of his private attorneys, who was placed to work as the clerk for the presiding judge. It was an outrage. It was a clear lack of impartiality, because a Perkins Coie attorney, Siddarth Velamoor, was placed as a clerk for this judge, writing an opinion for the judge. I mean, I came from the Soviet Union. I would expect this in the Soviet Union, but I would not expect it here.<br />
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Additionally, Judge Carter read some letters that came to him to his chambers, and in his final ruling, he quoted those letters that were highly defamatory about me, the plaintiff's attorney. I filed motions for reconsideration, and I repeatedly demanded to have access to those letters and have a hearing to provide my side of the story. I was defamed. My livelihood was affected. My position with the State Bar was affected, because the judge included in his order letters that were sent to him directly to his chambers, and I had no opportunity to even see them or respond. Clear lack of impartiality, abuse of judicial discretion, and for all of those reasons, and I'm running out of time, this case has to be - the decision needs to be overturned, and I should get my right for default judgment and forced judgment, discovery of the documents that I was seeking. I did bring – I don't know if the court would be willing to give me more time, I'd give more information.<br />
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ORLY added a bit at the end:<br />
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ORLY: Well, just to add a few – <br />
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Q: You used your time.<br />
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ORLY: No, I didn't. I still have some time.<br />
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[Conferring.]<br />
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Q: Okay, go ahead.<br />
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ORLY: Just to add a few – <br />
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Q: Got my timekeeper over here.<br />
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ORLY: Yeah, yeah, he's had 20 minutes for Mr. Kreep instead of 10 minutes. So the whole thing was messed up.<br />
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Q: Well, you have 20 minutes to divide between the two of you.<br />
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ORLY: Yeah, so originally Mr. Kreep spoke for 18 minutes.<br />
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Q: No, he didn't speak for 18 minutes.<br />
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ORLY: Yeah, he set it up for 20 when he started speaking. So he spoke for 18 minutes.<br />
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Q: Why don't you just go ahead?<br />
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ORLY: Yeah, anyways, what is important here is that my client Ambassador Keyes was the presidential candidate running against Mr. Obama. So he had perfect standing.<br />
Additionally, we went to Congress, and I presented during the hearings in the district court letters from a number of senators. Specifically I recall a letter from Senator Sessions stating that the Senate cannot decide the issues of fraud, whether was fraud was committed, and eligibility, that it is for the courts to decide, and the senators specifically stated that they want to abstain because they are not the court of the law. They are not judges. They cannot decide those issues. And therefore, it has to be decided -<br />
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Q: Excuse me. When did you submit those? Was it after the election or before?<br />
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ORLY: The, well, before the –<br />
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Q: In other words, when were the senators deferring to the courts? Was it before or after the election?<br />
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ORLY: Oh, the letters were sent to Judge Carter. We have sent letters to senators, congressmen. We had a whole campaign.<br />
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Q: Was this after the election or before?<br />
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ORLY: We have sent letters before and after the election. Nothing was done. Not only that, my clients, members of the military, went through Article 138, which is a specific article of grievances, and I submitted – you have it in with my pleadings – from the Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff of U.S. Military, from legal counsel for Admiral Mullen, saying that yes, we appreciate this is an important issues, but because Mr. Obama, Commander in Chief is not considered to be technically part of the military, he is a civilian overseeing the military, there is nothing they can do. So we did go and we tried each and every avenue. We exhausted each and every avenue, reaching Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff, we went to Congress, we went to Senate, and rightfully, they said it's up to the courts to decide. The senators cannot evaluate evidence. They cannot say if this birth certificate is valid or forgery. That's up to the judge to decide, and that's why I'm asking to overturn this decision and give me an opportunity to try this case on the merits and obtain proper evidence and then submit it Congress.<br />
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Q: Listen, we have your argument well in hand.Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03090683242630194066noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3053106569034451119.post-83032140592658586762011-04-08T12:46:00.000-07:002011-04-19T11:12:58.409-07:00Gearing upBeginning April 17, I'll be posting small snippets from the various birther interviews that I find on the internet. They are heating up again. I suppose they are getting ready to smear some more as the election cycle gets going.<br />
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So there will be plenty of nonsense to air out.<br />
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ETA: I've had to revise my schedule. Snippets will start on the 23rd.Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03090683242630194066noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3053106569034451119.post-86205542105125257492010-12-13T10:16:00.000-08:002010-12-13T10:19:26.400-08:00Chalice 11-14-10, 12:20-17:30CHALICE: All right, so here we go. We've got about, what, 15 minutes here to do the rest of the show, and I don't really want to talk all that much about Meroni v. Illinois State Board of Elections, and I have filed in the courts. I will post about it probably on Wednesday this week. I'm so busy, quite honestly, with this new role that I've taken on that my deadline for – and they all relate to the ballot integrity initiative, and so there's timing on there that is so critical to what's going on right now that I've had to not put that as my, you know, get up in the morning first thing I'm going to do focus, and part of that means that I – we are in the appellate court. I got some kind of a letter on Friday with dates. We are on an expedited calendar. I believe the first event occurs just about Thanksgiving, November 26, but I do anticipate speeding that up. I have a motion that I want to file that I haven't written yet, and that's early this week's goal. Part of the problem in doing that is that it – my whole approach became complicated when I learned that the lawyers for the Illinois State Board of Election was working with at least one individual lawyer from a far leftist group that has been attacking me personally on this issue. So that's problematic, in particular, because these Board attorneys should be objective, and why he was feeding information about what was going on in our proceedings to the left would bring into question issues relating to objectivity. And I don't really – I've never researched all of that as far as where the rules are and what the ethical responsibility is, and I spent time doing that last week and did learn that I do have grounds to be concerned about those connections which I can make very directly.<br /><br />So that kind of made me take a step back as well as some of the issues related to me getting involved in the ballot integrity program. Our case is so important, but no matter what, it would not have influenced and will not influence the result of those that were on my ballot for this election, and I can only be concerned technically about those people on my ballot. So that makes the filing of the case fall into a category of mootness, and so part of what my next approach to the court is going to be will involve, you know, addressing the issue of mootness as well as putting it into a context to why it's expedited or needs to be, and that reason, quite simply, is because we have other elections coming up immediately, and the same problem reoccurs again.<br /><br />So lots happening, and it will be this month, and other than that, I don't write and blog a lot about what's going on there, because, I don't know, it's just – I don't have time for it, and if you've got specific questions, you can mail me. If you can help, I need help. Believe me, just because I'm not writing about it doesn't mean I'm not thinking about it and doing work in the background. We do have some legal advice, and this week, very quickly, I'm reaching out to some additional, and also have a number of avenues that have opened up with relationship to funding. So a lot of different things swirling around there.<br /><br />Okay, end of the – oh, I could probably post my docketing statement, and what is the other thing I wrote? I had to write a notice of appeal, but I wanted to have a lawyer look at those. I know that it's probably part of the public record already. Who knows? I haven't seen it out there. So let me have a lawyer look at those two items and see how many mistakes I made, because I'm not a lawyer, guys, and each step of the way I have to learn something all brand new. I mean, it's like I don't know anything about the appellate court.<br /><br />So last weekend I spent a lot of time learning the rules of the appellate court and what the rules of lawyers are, and that was my study time. This weekend I had to study issues relating to integrity of ballot and putting together a final report on that, which I'm really excited about my report. I'm proud of it. So I don't know what's going to happen with it, but anyways.<br /><br />So okay, that's enough on that topic.Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03090683242630194066noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3053106569034451119.post-29594235313230738822010-07-25T10:48:00.001-07:002010-07-25T10:49:51.332-07:00Kansas, District 1, Answers to Birther Question<span xmlns=''><p>MR. JILKA: I might try to save my colleagues up here some time if they don't want to answer the question. The comment about whether Barack Obama was born in Hawaii doesn't merit time for a response.<br /></p><p>MR. MANN: I'll go, and I would disagree with that. I would say that I think that he should show his birth certificate, put this thing – you know, to really resolve one way or another, and I think that every member of Congress or judge or presidential candidate should be willing to prove their citizenship. It's in the constitution, and the constitution should be adhered to.<br /></p><p>MR. COBB: Well, I would agree. I think you need to get the facts out for sure, but there's obviously some degree of speculation. You know, some people say [inaudible] without a birth certificate. As you said, there's speculation that, you know, he was born someplace else. So I think, you know, get the facts out. Once you get the facts, then make the decision on whether you want to impeach or not, but first of all, you've gotta have facts. I just don't think you can go forward without facts, and yes, if we have the facts, then I'd be more than willing to push the appropriate procedures to remove somebody if they were in fact, you know, fraudulently placed in office. That would be my position on that. Thank you.<br /></p><p>MR. WASINGER: I'd prefer to take Obama on by talking about the issues like health care and cap and trade and debate what is on the American people's mind right now. I don't think some of these other issues are really relevant to the status right now. He is the President of the United States. We need to focus on winning back in 2010, winning in 2012, so that we can repeal ObamaCare. I think the rest is just a road that gets nowhere.<br /></p><p>MS. BOLDRA: Well, my husband would definitely agree with you, and I think you're right. I see no reason why you shouldn't have to prove your citizenship, and I don't see any reason why he is so adamantly opposed to it, except that there is a very elitist attitude in Washington that I am here and you little people really don't have the right to know. That is, though, in the government books, that is one of the jobs of the party in opposition. They are supposed to be the watchdog party, and that is our job to find out and answer those questions. Thank you.<br /></p><p>MR. BARNETT: Thank you for the question. I think it was Mr. Mitchell, as far as I remember correctly. Thank you for your question. I think any question is relevant. When I think of his policies, such as cap and trade, the idea of improving or fixing health care by raising taxes and reducing choices and gutting Medicare, I wonder what planet he's from. Thank you.<br /></p><p>MR. HUELSKAMP: The biggest question I have is in terms of the constitutionality of a mandated purchase of health care, and one thing that I believe the Republicans have not done a good enough job is, while most if not all have voted no, they didn't raise the real questions, because we didn't have again a $13 trillion deficit, because the Republicans were overly concerned about the constitution, and we've had a number of folks in both parties that were not too concerned about the constitution. So I think ObamaCare, and I think there might be a chance that courts will overrule and say that's a violation of the constitution, and I was active in the state legislature this year to encourage our attorney general to join the lawsuit of many other states to determine the constitutionality of those provisions, and I might note, the attorney general of Kansas declined to even speculate whether or not that was a concern. So I am certain that's an issue that's going to come up in the attorney general's race, as well it should, because we're looking at the biggest mandate in the history, I think, of this country. That's something I think which is an unconstitutional act by Congress and by this President. Thank you.<br /></p></span>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03090683242630194066noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3053106569034451119.post-55644487627058879922010-07-24T11:46:00.001-07:002010-07-24T13:08:47.353-07:00Cody Judy re: Manning trial[Quick and dirty]<br /><br /><span xmlns=''><p>CODY JUDY: I'll never forget when I called James David Manning up and told him that I had a dream that I was back in New York and that I arrived just in time to testify. New York was a long ways away and I didn't know if I could make it back there, but this dream was so strong and I had just seen it and visualized myself on the road and making it back to New York and arriving just right on time. I felt so strongly for the constitution and our freedoms, and I just believed that the Lord Jesus Christ was actually telling me to go back there.<br /></p><p>I just believed that the – that's what the Lord wanted me to do, and I felt his hand – it was a – I mean, when you feel the Lord's hand, it is a privilege to do any service that he asks you.<br /></p><p>I believe that that's what the Lord wanted me to do, was to go back to Harlem, New York, and testify in that CIA Columbia Obama trial. I think we have to remember or maybe think about is if the Lord wanted me to do that, then we have to understand that it was very important, it was crucial, and if you believe that our constitution is hanging by a thread and that the natural born citizen clause has not been stood up for recently, Pastor Manning gave a video, and he was claiming that, you know, he was saying that he had so many people that were gonna show up that disappointed him. Phil Berg was supposed to be there the night of the trial, never showed up. [Inaudible] thousands, maybe tens of thousands of people show up for the protesting the mosque that's being built in New York City, and we realized that the Columbia – CIA Columbia Obama trial march, we were lucky to have 150 or 200 people there any particular day. We did it for seven days. We said that they would do seven times around. But I was there every single day with him, even the first day I was with him and one other person. In fact, I'm the only person that made all seven marches.<br /></p><p>The significant thing about that is in mouth of two witnesses is the Lord's word established, and that is very important, but the thing that we have to consider is all the sacrifices that everybody made to get there. I had, literally, $500 in my name in starting that trip. I just barely got out there. I didn't know Pastor Manning. I didn't know anybody there. I'd been to New York one other time myself for about two hours, and I found the first night I was there was sleeping on Broadway in my little utility trailer in a sleeping bag, and to me that's faith, you know, but it's okay to have faith in something that you know that god wants you to do, and this was very, very important, and I don't think it's really dawned on America's mind yet, and that might be because the trial has not been made available to the American people.<br /></p><p>Now I have written Pastor Manning three letters requesting that he release those trial tapes to the general public so they could see it. Congress, you know, is controlled by the Democrats right now. That might be his hesitation in giving it to Congress, and Congress's own irresponsibility with the constitution is flagrant, obviously. I mean, if you hand the Democrats something that's going to take Obama out of office for being ineligible and being a fraud and lying on the declaration of candidacy, well, they're trying to cover each other.<br /></p><p>You know, it's very interesting in the Book of Mormon there is a big uprising in the Americas, and it's about [gadianton?] robbers, and they infiltrate the government and actually usurp [Nephi?], and it leads to the total destruction of the whole American empire.<br /></p><p>[Musical interlude]<br /></p><p>My fellow Americans, the inalienable rights that god has given to us he has given to us, but if we do not take responsibility for those, he can take those away from us. Very, very painful thing. We have got to do better. We have got to wake up, and I'm asking you please to wake up.<br /></p><p>I think the American people deserve to know. It was called We the People's court, and We the People's court – well, we the people would like to see what happened in your CIA Columbia Obama trial. Every person that sees what happens, or what happened, in that trial will be another member of your audience, will be another marcher in your line, and just because the line was small when it happened in May, 14th through the 19th, doesn't mean that everybody can get in line and see that, see the proceedings, won't also get in line with you in the support we need for Congress. Right now I'm running for the U.S. Senate, and I need your help. You know, I was a presidential candidate in 2008, and to my recollection there's not too many, if any at all, presidential candidates who have ever testified on stand against another presidential candidate, and I did that, and I did it because I believe in the constitution. I felt strongly, very strongly, that we should stand, that we need to take a stand for the constitution.<br /></p><p>So if I can encourage you to write Pastor Manning and ask him you'd like to see those tapes, because you'd like to become a member of the march. Gosh, you know, we could have 70 million people look at those things and decide to line up behind him. So we would be ready come the November elections to vote our consciences. Hey, America, that's what it's all about, taking a stand. Let's take a stand, stand up for the constitution and the freedom and liberty of our [children?]. Have a great day. </p></span>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03090683242630194066noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3053106569034451119.post-71645591179880930142010-07-23T19:54:00.000-07:002010-07-24T13:09:29.646-07:00Manning to the Tea Party[Quick and dirty version]<br /><br />JAMES MANNING: We're not going to stop Obama by holding tea parties. We're not going to stop this – you're not going to stop Lenin's prophecy of communism encircling the Americas and this global, everybody on the planet, every nation, they're all calling Obama. Turn America into a socialist nation, they're crying. You're not going to stop Obama with a tea party. It's ridiculous to think so. It is ridiculous.<br /><br />Now, here, I don't mean to say that tea party people are ridiculous. That's not what I'm saying. I love you, I do, and I praise god for your patriotism. I'm just saying to you that if y'all got on the birth certificate issue and began to talk – forget about the policies, forget about health care, talk about the birth certificate. You talk about the birth certificate, you get him out of office, his policies go automatically. Don't you understand what I'm trying to say?<br /><br />Understand what I'm trying to say? You're not going to stop the call to turn this nation into a communist – first stop, with socialist, first stop, communist, second stop. You're not going to stop this with tea bag parties against Obama's policy. Even though the media's covering, you're have a nice time, you're singing a lot of songs, you're traveling along America, going to a lot of cities, you're talking to a lot of people who are – the people that are asleep are not the Obama supporters. The people that are asleep are the ones who are opposing. You are asleep to the power of the call of socialism first stop, communism second stop, and the power that it has that all these nations are pulling, and Obama is saying give me a few more days, I'm going to turn America into a socialist nation. Just give me a few more days.<br /><br />The bankers have said, the world bankers have said, okay, we don't care, we still keep our capitalist ideas just like they do right now in communist Russia. You got the poor people, then you got the bureaucrats, and you got the bankers. Well, that's how we're going to be in America. I'm appealing to you. Forget about this tea bag business. Forget about it and get on the birth certificate, and don't shut up. There needs to be a birth certificate bus rolling across America. Get on the birth certificate, my brothers and my sisters. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, the tea bag worked for Samuel Adams, but it ain't gonna work now, not with communism calling our nation to join the world union. That's what they're doing. I'm telling you. I don't care what Rush Limbaugh's talking about, or that Glenn Beck, that Nazi idiot. I don't care what he's talking about. If he's not talking about the birth certificate, it don't mean nothing. It don't mean nothing at all, and he knows that. But he's been paid. He's got his money, and he thinks he's secure. He knows what's coming. So does O'Reilly, Hannity, and Limbaugh, too. They all know what's coming. They got their money.<br /><br />I'm telling you, my friends – and get out there and tell people. I mean, listen, I'm not against the tea bag people. I was down in Washington, you know I was. But it was about – and even though at one point there was 5 million people there, there was the best missed opportunity to talk to people. It was an opportunity to get America fired up, and all they did was dance around and be politically correct. It was troubling to see him talk [inaudible] and said nothing. My friends, listen to me. We're the ones that are asleep. Obama's crowds are wide awake. They want him. They don't care nothing about the constitution. They don't care nothing about the fact that he's an illegal alien. They don't care. You could show them the constitution, wave it in their face nine times on Sunday. They don't care about that. They don't care about the democracy of this nation. They don't care about the republic. They don't care. Don't you understand? White and black. They don't care.<br /><br />And you act like you don't care. I'm telling you, running around these tea parties ain't gonna do nothing. All these elections, all these people, all this stuff's going on, and if Obama fails, they'll put a bullet it in his head and get somebody else up there. They'll have John McCain doing it. They don't care, and John McCain will set out and do it. So will Sarah Palin.<br /><br />You gotta clean house, gotta take Obama to trial, put him in jail for the rest of his life, or hang him. Shoot him on the Washington – first try him, find him guilty, and the punishment for treason is a death sentence. Then clean the rest of them. Go get Hilary, go get John McCain, go get George Bush, go get Dick Cheney, too. Get 'em all. Then we can start over again. Reconstruct this great nation.<br /><br />So I'm saying to you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, listen. Well, the tea baggers – and okay, all right, I love you, I still do, god knows I do. I love your patriotism and I know you love America. I know you – I am not denying your fidelity and love and integrity for this nation. I know you love America. I'm just saying that what you are doing don't make no sense when you consider who your enemy is and what you're fighting.<br /><br />He's glad to see you – Obama is delighted – in fact he may have given money for the tea bag bus. He knows we're facing a global situation that's a whole lot bigger than y'all singing songs in 20 cities across America. Now, god knows I love you now, and I'm not trying to apologize for what I'm saying and what is true. I'm not trying to apologize here, mind you.<br /><br />This thing is bigger than the opposition. I look at the opposition, the people that are saying they are opposing Obama, you know, and then half of them, if not 90 percent of them, aren't ready to die, which is the other thing. You've got to – listen, you have got to be ready to die. Don't even step into – don't even think about – don't even think about opposing Obama if you've not already made your peace with the lord and you're ready to die, because this is not about voting and this election and that election, a blue state and a red state and a this and a that and the other, the conservatives are up, the Republicans are down, the Democrats and the Michael Steele and all that Tim Kaine business. This isn't about that. This isn't about that at all.<br /><br />You get ready to firmly oppose Obama, be ready to die, and tell all your friends; kiss everybody and tell them, today may be the last day, but if it's my last day, then praise almighty god, I'm glad to have served it in the cause of our lord and our savior and the purpose of this great nation. But don't come out here unless you're ready to die.<br /><br />You know, it's like going to war, and you're thinking that somehow or another, well, this is not – I can't get killed. I'm going to war, but I can't get killed. No. Bullet can find you. Now that's not to say you're gonna die if you join this movement of the constitution, fighting for our – doesn't say that you're going to – that's not what I'm saying. But you gotta be ready. People gotta hear it. They gotta know it.<br /><br />I'm not jiving. I'm not playing with y'all. I'm not. This isn't about – I'm ready. I'm ready. That's what you gotta say. So, you know, let's get out there and begin to tell people here, tell people, listen, I mean, okay, we thank god for the tea party people, you know, but unless you're dealing the constitution, my brothers and my sisters, it don't mean nothing. It don't mean nothing. It don't mean nothing.<br /><br />These issues of policy wonks and policy this and voting on that, it don't mean nothing if you're not willing, the only thing that you're going to deal with Obama is, I don't care whether health care passes or not, they may kick it to the curb because somebody wants to get some money out of it. You know, they may kick it to the curb and say, hey, listen, y'all haven't given us enough money, so unless you give us enough money, we're not voting for it. They get that in the Senate.<br /><br />But something's going to pass. But even if it doesn't, the only way you can deal with Obama is that ineligibility. It's the birth certificate, stupid. Now, I'm not calling you stupid, you know. But it's the birth certificate.Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03090683242630194066noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3053106569034451119.post-32928806185889710562010-03-13T14:19:00.000-08:002010-03-15T17:32:58.896-07:00Orly at Midweek Politics, March 4 (?), 2010<span style=";font-family:courier new;font-size:100%;" >[Notes: A couple of inaudibles were unavoidable, as Orly's connection was iffy at times. I may go back for a second listen later, but will leave them as is for now. I also dropped a couple of false starts but left in any that could remotely be considered meaningful.]<br /><br />From YouTube:<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Orly Taitz is the lawyer, dentist, and real estate agent at the head of the birther movement that questions whether President Obama is a U.S. citizen and wants to see his birth certificate.<br /><br />Orly, thanks for joining me today.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Thank you. By the way, let me correct you. It's not the issue whether he is a U.S. citizen. At issue is whether he's a natural born citizen, which is a requirement to be the president.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: You're right.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: And it's much more than just the birth certificate, because regardless of where Obama was born, in Kenya or Hawaii or even if he was to be born in the White House, at issue is the fact that he was never legitimate as a president because he had multiple citizenships, because he had and still has allegiance to different nations from birth until today, and that's Great Britain, Kenya, and Indonesia. That was important to correct that.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Right, I stand corrected. Let's start from the beginning. I want to go – first, let's go through your background and how you came to be really a very visible spokesperson at this point for this movement. One question I've been getting from the audience that they really want to know is how long did it take? I mean, lawyer, dentist, and real estate – how long were you in school.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Well, I've been a dentist for over 20 years, and I'm one of these people who likes to study. So as I ran my dental practice, and I have a family – I'm married and have three sons – I studied at night, and I was able to finish law school. I passed California Bar.<br /><br />Now in terms of real estate, it's not something that I do for a living. I just – when my husband and I were selling our old house, my husband said, listen, you study all the time anyways; might as well just take this real estate broker's exam and we can save on the commission. That's what I did. I just sat for the real estate broker's license exam and passed it. And so I was the listing broker for our own house, and that's how it came about.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: So as far as law school, this has also been a point of some contention, I believe you went to William Howard Taft University. Now, that is not accredited by the American Bar Association, right?<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Let me explain. I passed the California Bar. I'm licensed. I'm a licensed attorney in the state of California. I'm admitted to present clients in the Supreme Court of the United States of America. I did study at night. I did go to what's called night school. I did study on my own, and if anything, it just shows that I have more brains than average Joe, because it's not that easy to study independently at night, pass the exams, go to the California Bar, which is considered to be the most difficult bar in the nation, and pass it. I've seen people who went to Harvard and Yale and failed, and I passed.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Sure, but so we are correct in saying it is not accredited by the American Bar, just to be clear?<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Well, it is – you know what? I don't know what exact accreditation – they have accreditation for base schools, and then there are schools [inaudible] education, expand[?] studies, which I did, and that's the only difference, that I didn't go through regular school, you know, based during the day and take class.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Okay, fair enough.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: But I did pass the California Bar, and anybody can go and check. I passed. I'm licensed in the state of California. I've been licensed since 2002, and I'm also licensed with American Bar Association. You are welcome to go and check our license with them, as well. I'm a member of American Bar Association.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Okay.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: So, you know, people were trying to discredit me.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: No, I'm just trying to get the facts out, that's all. We get a lot of questions.<br /><br />So let's move on to the topic at hand. So I heard you recently spoke at a tea bagger conference. Is that right?<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Well, that's really disrespectful. When it comes to the conference, if you are referring to the tea party, yes, I have given speeches at a number of tea party conventions, and by the way, tea party patriots are very active. These people are concerned about this country, and they actually were credited with major shift in politics as of late. You've seen how typically blue states like Virginia, New Jersey, and Massachusetts switched from Democratic Party to Republican Party, and I'm sure you've seen the reports that it's largely because of the support from the tea party movement, and I'm sure you've heard that I'm considering running for the position of Secretary of State of California, specifically because of the massive fraud that we've seen in elections.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: I've heard rumors, yeah, but it was hard to believe.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: As a matter of fact, just before I started this interview, I was in the bank, because I needed to open a separate account for the campaign and so that I can deposit money in the account to pay the fee in order to put my name on the ballot. There are a lot of people that are urging me to run, because -<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: No, I understand. I was just setting – that my real question to you is politically you also don't agree with Barack Obama, right? So it's not so much – there is the birther question, but you also politically consider yourself more in line with the tea party.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Well, you know, by the way, that's another misconception, because a lot of people believe that tea party movement is just one political party, and as you've seen, actually, people that participate in tea party movements, tea party conventions, belong to different political parties.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: But I'm asking – no, I understand, Orly, but I'm asking you. Politically you would consider yourself conservative, liberal, or how?<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Well, I am conservative. I am more [inaudible] 99.9 percent of population of this nation are more conservative than Barack Obama. He wants to [inaudible] to communism.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: No, it's not –<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: And a lot of people – you know, when he came with the slogan hope and change, they know that there isn't much hope for any change, at least not for any change for the better, but now people are seeing that basically his political philosophy is the philosophy of big government, government takeover of most of the industries. We've seen takeover in banking, in automotive, and now he's trying the takeover of the health care, and you've seen the polls. A large – I mean, majority of population of this country do not believe that that's the way to go.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: So if I understand correctly, if I understand correctly, and I really want to get into the meat of the birth certificate and everything. If I understand correctly, you disagree with the majority of Barack Obama's policies as president, but you also say he was born in Kenya and because of that he shouldn't be president anyway, right? So it's two-sided.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Well, let me explain something. For example, I am more conservative than Hilary Clinton.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Right.<br /><br />MS. Taitz: However, I would have never filed any lawsuits challenging Hilary Clinton, simply even though I disagree with her on a number of issues, simply because she is legitimate for U.S. presidency.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Right.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: And I never filed against anybody else, because as far as I know all the other candidates have been legitimate.<br /><br />[Commercial break.]<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Barack Obama, again, it is irrelevant whether he was born in Kenya or not, and that's what people don't understand. There is no need to prove that he was born in Kenya or anywhere else. The most important issue is the fact at his birth he had foreign citizenship. You know, it was said at the inauguration that his father was an immigrant, but the point is his father was never an immigrant in this country. His father was here on a student visa and was never a U.S. citizen, not even a resident, and therefore, at the time Barack Obama was born, he had British citizenship under British Nationality Act of 1948 –<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: And does he have a British birth certificate.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: I don't know. It is irrelevant.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Ah, okay.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: The whole point is because his father was a British citizen, he was not qualified, and let me bring one more example, just to show that I am consistent. It is an important issue. For example, Bobby Jindal is considered to be one of the leading Republican candidates in the next presidential election.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Well, maybe.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: And I was very outspoken, time and again, stating that he cannot be a presidential candidate for the same reason that Obama cannot be the president, specifically because when Bobby Jindal was born, his father, just like Obama's father, was here on a student visa, not from Kenya, but from India. Regardless, and therefore, at birth Bobby Jindal had citizenship and allegiance to India. Whether he actually obtained any documents from India or not, it's irrelevant.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: It is irrelevant, you're right.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: And I'm saying, you know, it's not a matter of politics. It is a constitutional issue.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Well, I'm glad that this is not a political thing, because that's when we get mixed up.<br /><br />I have five questions, and I know it's tough, but if we can get yes-or-nos from you, it would be great.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Okay.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Do you believe Barack Obama was raised in radical Islam.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Well, I believe that – well, regardless of what I believe –<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Well, I'm curious. But that's my question. What do you believe?<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Let me – I'm not going to talk about my beliefs. I'm just going to talk about the facts that we all know. When he – his biological father is a Muslim, and judging by some of his writings, he really continued on the path of radical Islam. Barack Obama himself went to school in Indonesia and his school certificate shows him as Muslim, and where it states religion, it states Islam. We know that in 1981 he traveled to Pakistan, which was under the rule of General Zia Ul-Haq. The country was under the strict radical Muslim rule. So those are the facts.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Again, there's just five of these. Let me just see if we can run through a couple more, and again, the closer we can get to just yes or no is going to be ideal.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Okay. Yes, okay.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Do you believe Barack Obama's first act as president was to donate money to Hamas?<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: It was one of the executive orders.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Okay.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Where he donated $900 million to Hamas while at the same time he cut $500 million from U.S. Army veterans.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Okay, $900 million to Hamas.<br /><br />Do you think that Barack Obama has dozens of Social Security numbers?<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Again, it's not what I think. What I think is absolutely irrelevant.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: It's not. Orly, hold on a second. I'm interested – I'm personally very – I happen to think he doesn't have dozens. I want to know what you think. It's relevant to me, and it's relevant to our audience.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Okay, sure. Sure, and again, as an attorney I can only talk about the facts and evidence that I possess.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Well, try this as a dentist then maybe. I don't know.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Okay, so the facts, the evidence that I possess, that I have obtained, those were affidavits from licensed investigators, and according to affidavit by the licensed investigator Neil Sankey, as well as affidavits from other investigators, for example Susan Daniels, Barack Obama, according to national databases, such as Tracepoint[?], LexisNexis, Locator, used multiple Social Security numbers.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Got it.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: None of which were issued in the state of Hawaii.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Okay.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Moreover, the number that he is using currently – and you can actually verify this – xxx-xx-xxxx, is the number that was issued in Connecticut -- that's the number that he used most of his life – originally was issued to an individual born in 1890, and we know, of course, Obama was not born in 1890.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: No, certainly not.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: He never resided in Connecticut.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Got it. Okay, so you're – Orly, I'm trying to get through – there's just so much to cover. Your answer to that one is yes, I think, if I hear correctly.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Well, this is the evidence that I have.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: I follow.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: And [inaudible] use and make a decision whether there should be an action in regards to that.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Do you believe that Barack Obama has made threats on your life?<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: No, he did not. He personally did not make any threats on my life.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Or his associates.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: All I know, that a number of individuals made threats on my life. I have those recorded. I have recorded both in audio recordings, emails, comments on my website. So it's all well-documented. I have affidavits. I have all the information. There was tampering with my car. I'm not stating that it was done by Barack Obama himself. As a matter of fact, I'm sure it was not done by him personally.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: No, I'm sure it wasn't him personally.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: There were a number of individuals that did it, and I want the law enforcement all over the nation, I demanded investigation. I have a husband, I have three children, and as of yet no investigation was done, and that's why I want the United Nations to their Civil Rights –<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: I've got it. So the answer is not Barack Obama personally, but you believe it may have been his associates acting for him. I follow.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: I am saying some individuals have made multiple death threats, there was tampering with my car, there was tampering with my PayPal account, there was vandalism of my website, vandalism of my car -<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Got it.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: - and this just needs to be investigated. You know –<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Orly, we're just out of time. I was hoping to get yes-or-nos, but we got two- or three-minute answers.<br /><br />The last thing, you know, I think it's interesting what you're doing. I think you're wrong, but I would suggest to you a little bit of the time looking for Barack Obama's birth certificate, let's uncover Sarah Palin's high school diploma or Glenn Beck's rehab discharge form. I think that would be a good use of time, I'll be honest.<br /><br />MS. TAITZ: Well, you know what, let's do one thing at a time, but the thing is, regardless – and you know what, I'm not in – trust me, I have gotten requests of investigation of a lot of things, and again, it is not political. You know, I'm not a fan of Glenn Beck. If you've seen, I've written a number of articles where I disagreed with Glenn Beck vehemently on a number of issues. As a matter of fact, it was written, well, here Orly Taitz is attacking Barack Obama and John McCain and Glenn Beck.<br /><br />MR. PAKMAN: Well, Orly, I'll tell you, you have said it all. Unfortunately we've gone way over. I thank you for calling in today, and we are just completely out of time.<br /><br />Orly Taitz, it's incredible, I really hope that we're able to find that birth certificate, Lewis[?], because I as much anyone else wants to know w</span>here it is.Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03090683242630194066noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3053106569034451119.post-83658646608466780912010-03-10T17:59:00.000-08:002010-03-10T18:06:51.014-08:00Orly's Interview at Russia Today, March 8, 2010<meta equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="ProgId" content="Word.Document"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12"><meta name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 12"><link rel="File-List" href="file:///C:%5CUsers%5CMarsh%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CTemp%5Cmsohtmlclip1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"><link rel="themeData" href="file:///C:%5CUsers%5CMarsh%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CTemp%5Cmsohtmlclip1%5C01%5Cclip_themedata.thmx"><link rel="colorSchemeMapping" 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<br /></span></p><p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >MR. MOON:<span style=""> </span>We are sitting here today with Dr. Orly Taitz, who is an Orange County area dentist and attorney, but what she is really known for is her questioning, her challenging, of President Barack Obama and his legitimacy as a U.S. citizen and also as a president.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >Thank you for joining us, Dr. Taitz.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >Dr. Taitz, your contention, President Obama is not a natural born citizen and therefore should be disqualified from being a president, is still going strong in your opinion, and you have new information on why you believe this.<span style=""> </span>What's this new information?<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >MS. TAITZ:<span style=""> </span>He never provided his original birth certificate.<span style=""> </span>What he provided was a photoshopped computer image of something that was issued only in 2007.<span style=""> </span>It's an abbreviated version, something that are usually actually given to people that don't have for some reason their original birth certificate, if it's lost, stolen, something, and it provides nothing.<span style=""> </span>When you look at this document, you would not find a name of the hospital.<span style=""> </span>You would not find the name of the attending physician.<span style=""> </span>You would not find any signatures.<span style=""> </span>And that might be okay, you know, for the state of Hawaii to give him something so he can go and get a driver's license, but it's not enough for one to become a President of the United States and the Commander in Chief, and in light of the fact that Hawaii has a couple of statutes, one of them 338-17.<span style=""> </span>This is a statute that allows the foreign-born children of Hawaiian residents to get Hawaiian birth certificates.<span style="">
<br /></span></span></p><p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" ><span style=""></span>There's another statute, 338-5, that allows one to get a birth certificate based on a statement of one relative only without any corroborating evidence from the hospital.<span style=""> </span>What he provided is not sufficient, particularly in light of the fact that he claims that he was born in Kapiolani Hospital.<span style=""> </span>There is a birth certificate on file.<span style=""> </span>Why not show it?<span style=""> </span>What is there to hide?<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >So clearly it's an indication, the fact that he's refusing to unseal his original birth certificate that is currently sealed.<span style=""> </span>Without his consent we can't unseal it.<span style=""> </span>It is currently sealed in the state of Hawaii – tells you that there is some type of fraud going on, that he is hiding something.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >What's interesting that the Director of the Health Department in Hawaii, Chiyome Fukino, through her spokesperson, Janice Okubo, has given a statement, and in this statement she never stated that what Obama provided is a true and correct copy of what she has on file.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >But let me mention one more thing.<span style=""> </span>A lot of people believe that natural born means only to be born in this country, and I have done extensive research on this issue.<span style=""> </span>As a matter of fact, I have asked my supporters to send me Black Law Dictionary, because many are using Black Law Dictionary, and I found out that Black Law Dictionary didn't exist, didn't start until 100 years after Constitution was written.<span style=""> </span>What they did use extensively, the framers of Constitution, was a legal treatise and legal dictionary called The Law of Nations, by Emer de Vattel, that existed at a time and that is quoted in the Constitution, and Article 1, Section 8 actually quote The Law of Nations, and according to Law of Nations, natural born citizen is one who is born in the country to parents – in plural – who don't owe allegiance to other sovereignties.<span style="">
<br /></span></span></p><p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" ><span style=""></span>Now Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen.<span style=""> </span>He was here on a student visa from Kenya, which was a British colony.<span style=""> </span>So at the time of Obama's birth, according to British Nationality Act of 1948, he was a British citizen.<span style=""> </span>On December the 12th, 1963, when Kenya became an independent nation, he became Kenyan citizen, and when his mother married an Indonesian citizen and the family [inaudible], he became an Indonesian citizen.<span style=""> </span>So during his life, Obama owed – Obama himself owed allegiance to three other nations, aside from the fact that of course his father owed allegiance to other nations.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >And therefore, based on this definition of natural born citizen, even if he were to be born in Hawaii, he would never be eligible for presidency.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >MR. MOON:<span style=""> </span>There have been major news agencies, such as ABC News, NBC News, and also FOX News, which has been very critical of the President, that all say that the birther movement and questioning his natural born status really is ridiculous.<span style=""> </span>Do you have a reaction to that?<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >MS. TAITZ:<span style=""> </span>You know, today, as you know, the United States has a corporate-owned media.<span style=""> </span>We have only, what, five large media networks and – on TV, TV networks, one major radio network, like Clear Channel.<span style=""> </span>They are owned, the controlling number of shares of those networks are owned by the same few families of American oligarchs or American billionaires that put Obama in place and that stand to draw significant benefit from this presidency.<span style=""> </span>So I don't – not only I don't believe, I know that when the producers and reporters want to provide truthful information, they are either fired or sanctioned or reassigned.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >Let's talk about Lou Dobbs.<span style=""> </span>Lou Dobbs was a number one news reporter on CNN, and he invited me and my client, Ambassador Alan Keyes, to his radio program.<span style=""> </span>He was very supportive.<span style=""> </span>He stated United States has this honor system whereby anybody can put his name on the ballot and state I am eligible, and not one single secretary of state checked the document.<span style=""> </span>Lou Dobbs was very supportive, and I was invited to do his show, and the last moment, there was a switcheroo.<span style=""> </span>Instead of Lou Dobbs, there was Kitty Pilgrim, who did not give me an opportunity to speak, who read a prepared statement, and invited a couple of attack dogs to go ahead and attack me without giving me an opportunity to speak.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >What is happening in United States of America today?<span style=""> </span>Those presidents of networks are acting like some mafia bosses roughing up lawyers that are bringing up legitimate lawsuits.<span style=""> </span>Just instead of a crowbar, they are using insults and assaults and harassment.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >MR. MOON:<span style=""> </span>There are some people out there who really call into question your credibility.<span style=""> </span>Especially we're talking about different judges across the country who have said that your lawsuits are frivolous, your claims are absolutely frivolous.<span style=""> </span>So in at least some of the American public, your claim is really questionable in their opinion, because of how things have progressed for you and how things have progressed for the birther movement.<span style=""> </span>Do you have a reaction to that?<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >MS. TAITZ:<span style=""> </span>You know, just recently I read an article by the president of Judicial Watch, Mr. Klayman, and he has written that in year 2000 when he brought a case on behalf of Kathleen Willey against President Clinton and Clinton administration, Judge Royce Lamberth, who is actually a presiding judge on my case in Washington, D.C., decided in favor of Kathleen Willey against President Clinton, and the appellate court judges have attacked Judge Lamberth.<span style=""> </span>Why?<span style=""> </span>And Mr. Klayman is writing that today, particularly in federal courts, if you want promotion as a federal judge, you better not ruffle the feathers of a sitting president.<span style="">
<br /></span></span></p><p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" ><span style=""></span>Who will be there to protect you and your constitutional rights and your constitutional liberties if attorneys like me who are there fighting for constitutional rights, and doing it pro bono, mind you, are being intimidated and harassed by corrupt judges?<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >MR. MOON:<span style=""> </span>Is there anything that's going to satisfy you when it comes to the legitimacy of President Obama as being president and also as being a natural born American citizen?<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >MS. TAITZ:<span style=""> </span>I'm calling for a trial in a court of law where evidence is examined, where we have discovery, where there are subpoenas.<span style=""> </span>What's happening until now, in spite of 100 lawsuits filed, over 100, not one lawsuit was decided on the merits.<span style=""> </span>The judges time and again were saying that nobody has standing, that no judge has jurisdiction, and what I'm saying, what we need today is for our system of justice to work, for there to be a hearing on the merits, and if we have a hearing on the merits, then we – you know, let Obama present his evidence, let the judge decide on the meaning of what natural born citizen is.<span style=""> </span>Does it mean that split allegiance is allowed or dual citizenship is allowed for the president?<span style=""> </span>We need to get judicial determination on this issue.<span style=""> </span>We need to see real evidence.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >And then we'll move on one way or another.<span style=""> </span>What bothers me the most is that he believes that each and every American citizen is a complete idiot, that we cannot see that he is hiding something.<span style=""> </span>When a person has nothing to hide, he would not behave in such a manner.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" >MR. MOON:<span style=""> </span>Dr. Taitz, thank you so much.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height: 115%;font-family:";font-size:12pt;" ><span style="font-family: courier new;font-size:100%;" >MS. TAITZ:</span><span style="font-family: courier new;font-family:courier new;font-size:100%;" > </span><span style="font-family: courier new;font-size:100%;" >Thank you.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p> Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03090683242630194066noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3053106569034451119.post-89971188077082786742010-03-10T09:14:00.000-08:002010-03-15T17:35:45.689-07:00Orly's "Interview" at Florida Bike Rally<span style="font-family:courier new;">From YouTube</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:courier new;">MS. TAITZ: Well, my name is Orly Taitz, and I'm here giving an interview in the intermission in between the appearances at the Freedom Week where 25,000 bikers are gathering, and we're having this Freedom Rally. You know, this is a relatively quiet area, and I can give this interview.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:courier new;">There are two issues that are extremely important to me, and the issues that I'm trying to bring forward to the public to consider and bring it in turn to their politicians. One is the issue of Barack Hussein Obama's illegitimacy for U.S. presidency, and second issue is the issue of depletion of American jobs and destruction of U.S. economy, and I'll probably start with the second one.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:courier new;">What I've noticed that politicians are talking about spending, which is great, and I do agree with the Republican party. We're doing it to curb this insane spending that we've seen during the administration of Barack Hussein Obama. We're doing it to cut taxes. However, that alone will not be enough. We have a serious issue where the last 17 years, I would say, American jobs were depleted and were sent abroad. We were told that we cannot have economic borders, that we live in the times of GET, of global economic treaties. Well, we can. Yes, we can. Nobody can tell us that we have to send jobs abroad. Nobody can tell us that we have to keep corrupt politicians in office, corrupt congressmen and senators. Yes, we can elect new politicians who will bring to the floor of House of Representatives and Senate this most important issue, telling them we live in the times of economic emergency. </span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:courier new;">We have to go back to sanity from this complete insanity and this complete idiocy of free trade, unbridled free trade, without any safeguards for American workers, for the differential in the standard of living between them and workers in China and India. This is the issue that we need to bring to congressmen and senators, and we need to tell them, you bring this to the floor of the House and Senate, you demand that we curb imports. Curb it only to essential ones, and we'll put tariffs that will account for the differential in standard of living, and if you don't, we will throw you out, and we will elect new people.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:courier new;">And then the second issue that we need to ask them to bring to the floor of the House of Representatives and floor of the Senate, another issue of the complete illegitimacy of Barack Hussein Obama to U.S. presidency, and there are a number of issues within this one.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:courier new;">One of them that not too many people are talking about, that's the issue of Barack Hussein Obama using multiple Social Security numbers. I'm currently working with a number of investigators. One of them is Mr. Neil Sankey. He is a licensed investigator who has over 20 years of experience in Scotland Yard where he worked in an elite unit dealing with communist proliferation and organized crime. He has compiled a list of 39 different Social Security numbers that Barack Hussein Obama used in different financial transactions.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:courier new;">A number of investigators have found that the number, the Social Security number that Barack Obama has used most commonly is xxx-xx-xxxx. Why I can disclose this number? Simply because it was obtained by fraud. The first three digits in any Social Security number signifies the state. 042 signifies the state of Connecticut. This number was issued between 1976 to 1977 in the state of Connecticut, when Obama was the resident of the state of Hawaii, and it was issued to an individual, elderly individual who at the time, who was elderly at the time and who was born in 1890. Clearly this is not Barack Hussein Obama. He is using someone else's Social Security number, and this is totally despicable that we can have somebody sitting in the White House in the position of the President and Commander in Chief using stolen Social Security number.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:courier new;">And it also underlines, highlights, the extent of corruption and lawlessness that we have in our Department of Justice in our U.S. Attorneys Office and in the judiciary, that nobody would touch this issue. Nobody will bring it to forefront. This is unacceptable. We have to demand that this issue be brought to light. It's a criminal violation. It's a felony. It's a Social Security fraud. It's identify theft. People sit in the big house, not in the White House, for criminal activity like that.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:courier new;">Additionally, it signifies a very simple fact. Who uses Social Security numbers of others? People who are here illegally, people who weren't born in this country, people who do not have valid birth certificates. They're the ones that have to resort to using Social Security numbers of the others, and that's yet another problem with Barack Obama in that he absolutely refused to show his original birth certificate, the one that is sealed in Hawaii. He provided only an abbreviated version that does not have the name of the hospital, does not have the name of the attending physician, does not have any signatures. This is a piece of garbage. One cannot sit in the position of President Commander in Chief based on such a piece of garbage.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:courier new;">He has to disclose his records. We have now a case in Washington, D.C. I have filed the case, and the presiding judge is Judge Royce C. Lamberth, chief judge for the District of Columbia, and I have filed an application for preliminary injunction. It was filed February 16, 2010, and Judge Lamberth is supposed to provide an answer by March 8. So it's really important to get this number and to get discovery.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:courier new;">And another issue that we need to bring to the forefront. Regardless of where Barack Hussein Obama was born, whether he was born in Hawaii or Kenya or if he were to be born in the White House, in the Lincoln bedroom, he is still completely illegitimate to U.S. presidency. Why, you ask. Why? And the reason is very simple. Because he had and has split allegiance. He has allegiance to other nations. He has citizenship of other nations. His father was never U.S. citizen, and Barack Obama since birth had British citizenship. When he turned two years old and Kenya at the time became an independent country, he got Kenyan citizenship, and later on he got Indonesian citizenship.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:courier new;">In order to be the President of the United States, you have to be a natural born citizen. We traced legal dictionaries and treaties to the time Constitution was written, and the one that was widely used by the framers of the Constitution is the Law of Nations that states natural born citizen is one who is born in the country to parents – mind you, two of them – who are citizens of the country. Since Obama's father was never a U.S. citizen, he has a problem. He did not fulfill this requirement, and therefore he cannot be the President of the United States, and I call upon on all of you to join me in this fight for our constitutional rights.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:courier new;">Make no mistake about it. We live in the times of the second American revolution. We are now leading a new civil rights movement. That's the civil rights movement when we are demanding real transparency, not empty words, but real transparency. We are demanding respect from judges and U.S. Attorneys Office and the President, and this respect we're demanding in the form of real documents, not some piece of garbage, photoshopped piece of garbage posted on the internet. That is not acceptable to us.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:courier new;">We have rights. We want them upheld. I have been persecuted for bringing this issue, with constant death threats, tampering with my car, vandalism, hacking of my website, my PayPal account. There's a group of forgers that forged my signature, provided perjured affidavits, and aside from bringing this case in Washington, D.C., I have filed a complaint with United Nations Committee for Human Rights. Please join me and help me in upholding our constitutional rights in getting to the bottom of this.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:courier new;">Thank you.</span>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03090683242630194066noreply@blogger.com1